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Is the region ever going to love its river?
Talk about perfect timing.
On Monday, April 28, the University of Dayton is sponsoring a River Summit at College Park Center.
On April 22, The New York Times did a big take-out on how Oklahoma City has turned the Oklahoma River — once a “ditch” that had to be mowed — into a destination.
The peg for the story was partly that canoeists and kayakers were in town trying to qualify for the U.S. Olympic team.
UD and the Miami Conservancy District have lined up a gaggle of presenters to talk about riverfront development and what it can do for the region — from Sidney to Fairfield. UD, of course, is focused, in part, on this effort because it wants to extend its campus to the river’s edge.
Judging from The Times story, Oklahoma City has done a lot right. Once known for football and rodeo, it’s now a hot spot for water sports.
The like and similars between Dayton and OKC are striking, including how much effort was put into preventing floods — efforts that ultimately drove people away from a natural natural resource.
Here’s a Q&A that Reporter Steve Bennish and I did in 2006 with Five Rivers Metro Parks’ Greg Brumitt and and the conservancy’s Dusty Hall, both of whom are outdoor enthusiasts and passionate advocates for the Great Miami’s economic development potential.
Q What are we missing about Dayton’s rivers?
Brumitt: Water has been the basis for urban development for centuries around the world. Water is magic. It pulls people to places.
Look around - from Paris to San Francisco to Chattanooga to Dayton. Water has been a focus of the development of cities.
Hall: Dayton and the region’s cities are along the river because of the river. A sense of interdependence between the river and the cities has been lost. That probably happened from the 1913 flood forward.
The remarkable environmental comeback of the rivers also is not widely known and appreciated.
Q Does the lack of appreciation have to do with the fact that many people don’t have access to, or use, the river?
Brumitt: You can’t have a relationship with something you don’t use. But don’t misuderstand: There are lots of enthusiasts who are using the river.
Hall: The levees protect people and property from flooding, but there’s no question that they also pushed people away. It’s going to require a deliberate effort to get them back. But as we get people back, they’re providing the energy to bring others.
In the last two weeks, I’ve had complaints about powered watercraft users, fishermen and jet skiers trying to share the same section of the river. Each has a sense of ownership that is so passionate that they want the others out. What a great problem!
Q What’s possible?
Hall: The hearts of our downtowns are not river-focused or river-centric today. In our watershed - from Piqua to Hamilton - the tradition has not been to front major development on the river.
Type “riverfront development” on your search engine and you’ll see the massive number of cities that are turning back to their rivers for economic development.
Look at San Antonio. A portion of the San Antonio River is essentially a concrete canal that gets drained once a year to clean out the mud. But the river walk along that canal pumps nearly $1 billion a year into the San Antonio economy.
That community doesn’t have nearly the river assets that we have, but it has an incredibly thriving riverfront life that creates vitality for their city.
If the leadership in the region’s cities begin to understand the value of the rivers as a development asset, you have the opportunity to present something unique.
What area has 70 miles of cities that have great riverfront development potential with lots of recreation-based connections between them?
Brumitt: Twenty or 25 years ago, Chattanooga was an old steel town and not doing very well. Now it has focused development on both sides of the river downtown. It’s built an aquarium and a new park focused on outdoor recreation activities like bouldering and climbing. The art museum has expanded. It has 10 miles of recreation trails, and they’re so proud.
We have 60 miles of trails just within Montgomery County. Chattanooga has a program not unlike Five Rivers Outdoors called Outdoor Chattanooga, and it just merged with the city’s parks and rec department. Their job is not only to build new facilities, but to promote Chattanooga as an outdoor destination.
There are places we can look to that are doing great things with rivers.
Hall: You have Sidney and Piqua to the north, and Hamilton to the south. All the river cities could be working together to create amenities that are complementary - with greenways and blueways connecting them.
This certainly would be good for older core cities that, at times, have been out-competed by the suburbs.
It begs the question: What do the core cities have that the suburbs don’t?
It’s the river.
Brumitt: Most other regions don’t have a really well-defined, connected network of recreation trails. When you put that well-defined network of trails along rivers, and when you also have large parks on those corridors, you have an impressive greenway-blueway system.
Look at the Katy Trail, which extends about 200 miles out from St. Louis along the Missouri River. Initially everyone along the trail was against the trail. But today little towns like Augusta and Hermann have wine festivals, and you can bed and breakfast your way for miles out from St. Louis.
Given the network we have, I’m surprised that we haven’t developed more businesses along the trails. It will take focus, but it can happen.
Hall: I predict that within a few years there will be an active canoe and kayak livery on the Great Miami or the Mad River that serves the downtown Dayton area and the proposed whitewater park.
The fact that groundwater actually flows into the surface water during the driest periods of the year means that we will have water here when practically nobody else in the country does.
In conversations about the whitewater park, the designers were very excited that we would have flow here when other parks across the country are shut down.
Brumitt: There is a very large paddling community here that the whitewater industry pays a lot of attention to. The kayaking community is acknowledged in the industry to be one of the largest in the Midwest.
Five Rivers Outdoors, just this year, has taught about 400 people how to kayak. When we did our indoor kayaking classes at the downtown YMCA this year, more than half the people were over 50. We had 25-year-olds, and we had 70-year-olds.
Hall: You can get kayaks into consumers hands for $300. A few years ago the pace of registration of hand-held watercraft was outpacing all other boats combined.
There is a whole new generation of water enthusiasts. They’re looking for places to recreate. The whitewater park in South Bend now has to limit the number of people who can go in on any given day. They quit talking about their park because they don’t want any more people to come.
You can stimulate economic development by having a very active recreational community. People are attracted to places where there are things to do.
Q Is there a flaw in the plan that we only have five or six good months of weather a year?
Brumitt: To the core enthusiasts, kayaking is year-round. Many times the season is better in the winter because there’s more water.
Hall: Most paddlers will enjoy an eight- or nine-month season. Baseball, football and other sports seasons are usually six months or less. But the economic spin-offs can be year-round.
Q What’s the time frame for the whitewater park?
Brumitt: We’re going to see most of the studies come in in September. We’ll have to develop more detailed designs and cost estimates. We hope that we can do this sooner rather than later.
Hall: The project has a lot of momentum. People are talking about it. People haven’t been excited about something like this since baseball.
Q Can you paint a word picture of Dayton’s riverfront in 2015?
Brumitt: The whitewater park is the first initiative. It’s about making the river accessible again.
If we also can connect to other MetroParks, and to other communities that are building venues, and out to Wright State and to UD, you can see how the greenways and blueways come together.
If we build on what we are already doing by adding even more access points, rest stops, cafes and even overnight camping areas, the trail of amenities add up to a destination. We should be shooting for being a premier recreation site.
Outdoor recreation is beneficial in of itself, but how we develop the rivers for users can change how people think about Dayton.
Hall: I can see a lunch-time migration of downtown workers to River-Scape on a scale 10 times greater than today - at venues from the confluence of the Mad River all the way around on the river to Carillon Park.
I hope there will be new access to the river from the University of Dayton’s Campus West. Just a little farther downstream, you’ve got Carillon Park. A little bit upstream, there’s Wright-Dunbar, the Dayton Art Institute. Who has such a fantastic, eclectic array of opportunities?
I see people kayaking at the whitewater park, and boaters playing in the river, and, for everyone of them, you’ve got 7 to 10 people watching and eating lunch. I picture that whole area behind the YMCA thick with kayaks because the safety hazards associated with the low dams have been eliminated.
You can see the area alive with waterrelated activities, bikers and walkers.
Q What have you learned about promotion and marketing?
Hall: There’s an experiential learning to marketing. Get people on the river, on the trails - let them experience what others are experiencing. Then they become the biggest advocates.
There’s nothing better than giving people an experience that they can talk about. People are yearning for something that gives a positive vision for the future.
We should be planning for more and more conflicts in use. People are going to bumping into each other, their paddles are going to be clanging against each other, and fishermen are going to be angry because the boaters are making too much noise, and the water skiers are going to be mad because the kayakers have crowded them out.
What a delightful thing that will be.
E-mail Brumitt at: gbrumitt@metroparks.org.
E-mail Hall at: dhall@miamiconservancy.org.
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By Bill
April 24, 2008 2:42 AM | Link to this
I don’t know much about this subject or how many dams there are, but how will the presence of low dams impact or restrict recreational use of the river? My understanding has been that these are drowning machines… How can they be bypassed or altered for safety?By Work by river
April 30, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this
Are you KIDDING me? Does anyone realize that the FOUL SMELL in Dayton is from the river? I wouldn’t go in it with someone else’s kayak! Yuck!By Mike
April 30, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this
It would be exciting to see the UD rowing teams row downtown instead of only upstream of the dam near Island Park.By Bj
May 4, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this
I was born in Dayton and went to Webster and Kiser. Most of my friends live south of town and are a little snobby about it. I have lived in other cities; Dayton still comes out the best because it’s so unique. What other city our size has their own Art Museum, an Air Force Museum, the beautiful Schuster Center and the Victoria. When I hear people put Dayton down, I always say there is so much potential being wasted. I?m talking mainly along the river. The city stores salt and equipment along the river bank. There are a lot of empty spaces they could put that stuff and turn that piece of land into a money making asset for Dayton. We need some investors willing to take a chance along side Dayton; like maybe half of the capital to build tall condominiums or apartments right on the river bank. There could be little boat docks for people who could use the river for recreation or maybe ride your boat to work downtown. We could have a Riverboat with entertainment. Also, a restaurant by the river is always nice. I could see downtown taking all those old buildings and making them into lofts and apartments, reasonable priced. I?ve thought that Dayton’s downtown would be perfect for young couples, retired couples and gay couples. The sidewalks are plenty big for those motorized wheelchairs, and there’s a lot of light for older people who can’t get out much because they can’t see well in the dark. Down town is well lit and there’s a lot of entertainment now, I mentioned before the Schuster, art galleries, Gilly’s and Canal Tavern, and all the clubs in the Oregon district. You?d be saving huge amount of money on cars and gas. Everything would be in walking distance or use RTA buses or a special trolley. You need a few brave investors. I think we’ve been hampered from getting new businesses because of all the red tape they have to go through. How about hiring a good real estate lawyer to look over all of our rules and regulations and try to get rid of as much of the red tape as possible, be a little more flexible, and shorten the time it takes to get permission to build a new building. I?ve heard complaints about the hassles myself. I know there are some flaws; like the school system but with new people and more revenue that problem might solve itself. By aiming advertising toward the groups of people that don’t have small children, we could build downtown whether the schools get fixed or not. I use to work in the Career Academy that sits right next to the river. I just loved it; all four seasons were just a delight to see every day. You know the expression “If you build it, they will come. Is there any real reason why when the baseball stadium isn’t being used for baseball, that it could be used for music concerts or other forms of entertainment during the summer? I’m telling you there’s so much you could do; I’ve barely scratched the surface. I just heard the expression ?Dayton is not for tourist but it’s great place to live in.? I like that, shows a little sense of humor, which I think we could use humor to our advantage. Well, I hope some filthy rich person who has money to burn reads this and decides to take a chance. Maybe we could put a statue of the guy at Monument and Main.By MAC
May 8, 2008 3:22 AM | Link to this
I was stationed @ Wright-Patt for 4 yrs and enjoyed visiting downtown Dayton for the Dragons’ games, children’s theater, Sinclair CC and the new rive front park development, but other than that, downtown Dayton is a dump and is in desperate need of a significant clean-up. A project such as this would be a huge step in the right direction IMO.By Dave Lightle
May 8, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this
The riverfront needs a major catalyst for development, one that will make everything else viable for the long run. Our Air & Space Virtual World concept fits that bill.By Marianne
May 8, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this
I would rather see a mid size arena be built for the Dayton Bombers, the Dragons are such a hit and it brings folks to Downtown…I really believe it would work, as long as they don’t over build! It’s better than rowing in that awful river water, there is nothing exciting about that. If cleaner maybe!By Jim Crotty
May 10, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this
I frequently visit, cycle and photograph along the Great Miami River (if fact headed-out to ride today). Yes, there’s still plenty of opportunities for clean-up, but there are also times when the river can be quite scenic. Also, I’ve noticed a steady increase in wildlife along the shores, sometimes too many when it comes to the messy geese (yuck). Veolia Water, which manages many of the area wastewater treatment facilities, hosts a Great Miami River Clean-Up each summer. I had an opportunity to photograph the effort by way of canoe as well as some of the behind-the-scenes work at the treatment facilities. I was impressed with just how much work and attention goes into treating, monitoring and testing the water by facility staff. Many hard-working volunteers waded through the mud and muck, pulling tires, car parts, shopping carts, etc., but there seems to be so much more every year. Much of this dumping takes place up-stream from downtown in the more hidden away parts of the river. Regardless, there are those moments when the trash is gone from view, the water is still and the air clear, making for scenes such as this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimcrotty/1865885360/By Rick
May 10, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this
Both my wife and I often cycle on the Great River Corridor. We use the river, too. She rows with the Dayton Rowing Club and I kayak on both the Stillwater and Great Miami River. We often hike in the Metro Parks as well as the three parks/reserves in the Yellow Springs areas. When there is enough snow, we cross country ski in the Metro Parks. With all the bike trails, rivers, and Metro Parks, this is a great place for someone who loves the outdoors.By TBill
May 21, 2008 7:20 AM | Link to this
Riverscape: what a farce. A couple of little fountains for kids to play in. The big fountains in the river: when did they last work properly, and how many millions of $$ were wasted? The opportunity is there, but it always fails when it comes to the actuality. This is Dayton, not Reno,NV where they have a real rapids on the river in their downtown.By bob
May 25, 2008 1:13 AM | Link to this
Why not replace the stewart street bridge (which i believe is scheduled to be replaced anyway) with more a dramatic structure that would add some architectual/artistic flare to the river? This would help make the river a focal point.By Kevin Lewis
June 2, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this
I loved this article. When will Dayton take full advantage of our greatest natural resource? We need to call the guy that did the San Antonio River walk and give him Downtown Dayton as a Blank Slate!! WE NEED HELP.By Rick
June 20, 2008 7:50 PM | Link to this
This last Wednesday I went on the kayak rides sponsored by Five Rivers Metroparks and the Whitewater Warehouse. They have two trips at 5:30 and 6:15. I brought my regular old 12-foot kayak and realized I was in a minority of one. All the rest had these mini kayaks that are good for rapids. As soon as we got in the water some of them sarted doing rolls. When I came to a rapids I would work to get through it. After they got through it, they went back for more! Oh well, a great time was had by all on the Mad River, me doing my thing and them doing theres. Between the two trips I would say there were 15-20 kayakers.By sharon
June 28, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this
I lived in Nashville in the early nineties, during a time when that city was working hard to build it’s riverfront area into a thriving attraction for both tourists and locals. One of the most fun and innovative events they came up with was “sundown in the city” a musical event set on the riverfront every Thursday evening from 6 p.m. til about eleven. Each week featured an up and coming musical act, and a back up band. There were the typical food and beer vendors and t-shirt and trinket hawkers, and the event was free and open to the public. We have the perfect opportunity here in Dayton to create the same type of venue, a thriving music scene, and a riverfront park in downtown. What are we waiting for?